{"id":18,"date":"2011-03-09T10:50:32","date_gmt":"2011-03-09T09:50:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nuclearphilosophy.org\/?p=18"},"modified":"2011-03-09T10:50:32","modified_gmt":"2011-03-09T09:50:32","slug":"reading-and-time-a-dialectic-between-academic-expectation-and-academic-frustration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.nuclearphilosophy.org\/?p=18","title":{"rendered":"Reading and time: A dialectic between academic expectation and academic frustration"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Anne forwarded me this small beautiful exchange between scholars.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uSdHoNJu5fU\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uSdHoNJu5fU<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">I wanted to add that<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">I do not agree&#8230; You never need anything to read anything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Actually to understand Derrida it is not necessary to read e.g. Sein and Zeit. The question is then of course, what exactly did you understand in reading &#8220;Grammatology&#8221;, and even more, re-reading it: will you still understand the same? The tricky thing is that claiming to understand anything in philosophy is to a certain extent always a lie.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">My problem is that I did not understand this and a lot of times felt dumb and helpless.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">So I do not understand Zizek and it took me years to understand him.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">The awful thing is that one has to &#8220;with-stand&#8221; philosophy to &#8220;under-stand&#8221;. Interestingly in german under-stand is ver-stehen. The\u00a0\u00a0&#8220;ver&#8221; means that by doing something actively you somehow actively do something not intended.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">E.g.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">ver-zeihen &#8211; for-give (par-don, lat. pro [veniam] dare)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">ver-f\u00fchren &#8211; seduce, f\u00fchren &#8211; lead<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">ver-sagen &#8211; fail, sagen &#8211; say<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Most interesting of those is<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">ver-sprechen &#8211;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">It means to promise\u00a0and to make a slip of the tongue or to make a mistake, sprechen &#8211; speak<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">So by understanding something by the pure meaning of the word verstehen in german you misunderstand while understanding.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">So far to the subtelities of language and philosophical meanings. Fortunately Heidegger is making these differences most of the time quite clear.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Still, I read once for training Pablo Neruda in German and Spanish side by side. In german it sounded awful. In spanish it made me get tears in the eyes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Now to something completely different:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">At the end I want to share one of my favorites regarding understanding philosophical texts. But in 2 Translations. Note that the last subsentence is missing in the first.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Hegel&#8217;s night of the world.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">First in German &#8220;von <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abcphil.de\/html\/hegel_die_nacht_der_welt.html\">hier<\/a>&#8220;:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">Der Mensch ist diese Nacht,<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">dies leere Nichts, das alles in ihrer Einfachheit enth\u00e4lt<br \/>\n&#8211; ein Reichtum unendlich vieler Vorstellungen, Bilder, deren keines ihm gerade einf\u00e4llt &#8211; ,<br \/>\noder die nicht als gegenw\u00e4rtige sind.<br \/>\nDies die Nacht, das Innere der Natur, das hier existiert reines selbst,<br \/>\n&#8211; in phantasmagorischen\u00a0 Vorstellungen ist es rings um Nacht, hier schie\u00dft dann ein blutig Kopf,<br \/>\n&#8211; dort eine andere wei\u00dfe Gestalt pl\u00f6tzlich hervor, und verschwinden ebenso<br \/>\n&#8211; Diese Nacht erblickt man,<br \/>\nwenn man dem Menschen ins Auge blickt<br \/>\n&#8211; in eine Nacht hinein, die furchtbar wird,<br \/>\n&#8211; <strong>es h\u00e4ngt die Nacht der Welt hier einem entgegen<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">In\u00a0dieser Nacht ist das Seiende zur\u00fcckgegangen.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Now in English from <a href=\"http:\/\/whenhernameyouwriteyoublot.blogspot.com\/2006\/05\/night-of-world.html\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">&#8220;The human being is this night, this empty nothing, that contains everything in its simplicity\u2014an unending wealth of many representations, images, of which none belongs to him\u2014or which are not present. This night, the interior of nature, that exists here\u2014pure self\u2014in phantasmagorical representations, is night all around it, in which here shoots a bloody head\u2014there another white ghastly apparition, suddenly here before it, and just so disappears. One catches sight of this night when one looks human beings in the eye\u2014into a night that becomes awful.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">it suspends the night of the world here in an opposition. In this night being has returned.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;\">And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marxists.org\/reference\/archive\/hegel\/works\/jl\/ch01a.htm\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">&#8220;The human being is this Night, this empty nothing which contains everything in its simplicity \u2013 a wealth of infinitely many representations, images, none of which occur to it directly, and none of which are not present. This [is] the Night, the interior of [human] nature, existing here \u2013 pure Self \u2013 [and] in phantasmagoric representations it is night everywhere: here a bloody head suddenly shoots up and there another white shape, only to disappear as suddenly. We see this Night when we look a human being in the eye, looking into a Night which turns terrifying. [For from his eyes]\u00a0the night of the world hangs out toward us.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica; min-height: 16.0px;\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Helvetica;\">Matthias<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Anne forwarded me this small beautiful exchange between scholars. http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uSdHoNJu5fU I wanted to add that I do not agree&#8230; You never need anything to read anything. Actually to understand Derrida it is not necessary to read e.g. Sein and Zeit. 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